Seven More

More than a few bloggers have taken the time to give the war against Western Civilization some thought, some in much more depth than the “Seven” post below. Here are a few:

The Gates of Vienna (just thinking through the historical events that meme evokes is almost enough!) has a moderately long and very thoughtful post that outlines many of the issues in the war to bury the west. A sample:

…the challenge to liberal democracy can also come from new and more insidious threats. John Fonte of the Hudson Institute notes that “transnationalism” and “Multiculturalism” are presented as unstoppable forces of history, but in reality they are “ideological tools, championed by activist élites.” He suggests that the end of the Cold War has intensified an intracivilizational Western conflict between liberal democracy and transnational progressivism, between democrats and post-democrats. According to him, the EU “embodies transnational progressivism. Its governmental structure is post-democratic. It is unelected and, for the most part, unaccountable.”

And,

Even in the USA, the most astonishing aspect of the immigration debate is that the élites “think they can override the clear and huge resistance of the American people.” As columnist Tony Blankley wrote, the Senate was prepared to “legislate into the teeth of the will of the American public.” Eight out of ten Americans wanted the borders closed to millions of illegal immigrants, yet nothing substantial has been done. There has to be a reason for this.

Worth reading the whole thing.

Fjordman (“A blog about Islam, Scandinavian affairs and global politics”) has a five-part series in his “Online Workshop”. Part five, The End of History or the End of Democracy? is powerful.

What does it take for a democracy to work? Can you still retain a democracy with massive illegal immigration going on? Is Multiculturalism inherently anti-democratic? Some people claim that the nation state is a redundant concept in a globalized world, but I can’t see many democratic societies not based on a nation state. Can you? To me, the EU is the perfect example of how democracy becomes weakened when you try to make an organization above the nation state. And the UN is unacceptable because it allows dictatorships and corrupt non-democratic states to dictate democratic ones. Until we have something better, if ever, the nation state is the best way ever discovered of organizing society to provide the greatest good to the greatest number of people. The problem I think is that people get confused between democracy and human rights. Obviously you can’t have pure democracy — that is just mob rule. As some wag once wrote, “Two wolves voting to eat the sheep.” That’s why the famous concept of “checks and balances” were built into the US system of government — to give some protection to the sheep. The framers of the US constitution thought long and hard about pure democracy and recognized its limitations.

Thankfully, there’s MUCH more where that came from. read it. (And weep. Then get angry and throw the anti-democratic bums outa Congress, etc.)

An “extensive exchange” of email between Jerry Pournelle and Joel Rosenberg concerning the Israel/Lebanon mess. Folks, these are two very smart, well-informed, civilized people having a civil discussion about an important issue, one that has implications for America and the whole world. You’d do well to listen in on their disagreement (which does contain points of agreement as well, as most good arguments do). As Pournelle says in his preface to this public service posting,

This is a long series of letters between me and my long time friend and colleague Joel Rosenberg. I have considerable respect for Joel’s analytical skills, and he has many sources of information. Philosophically we have wide areas of agreement. This exchange of letters is, in my judgment, a good exposition of the different views reasonable people might have about the Lebanon War.

The Twin Myths of Eurabia, at The Brussels Journal, is another place to touch base for some insight into the war on Western Civilization.

Sir Jadunath Sarkar, the pre-eminent historian of Mughal India, wrote the following in 1920 regarding the impact of centuries of Jihad and dhimmitude on the indigenous Hindus of the Indian subcontinent:

“The conversion of the entire population to Islam and the extinction of every form of dissent is the ideal of the Muslim State. If any infidel is suffered to exist in the community, it is as a necessary evil, and for a transitional period only. Political and social disabilities must be imposed on him, and bribes offered to him from the public funds, to hasten the day of his spiritual enlightenment and the addition of his name to the roll of true believers.”

Another that’s worth the time to read in its entirety.

Can anyone say, “traditional values”? Yep, Paganism Gaining Popularity in Prison. Yet another reason why I deplore the use of the phrase “traditional values” in arguments by so-called conservatives is that traditions vary widely and are diverging ever more and more from Western Civilization values as multicultis exercise their muscles. Traditional values to save the day? Heather MacDonald pricks that ballon.

Inigo Montoya has something to contribute to the discussion with those who invoke “traditional values” too…

Then, of course, there is this post (among an embarassing wealth of others) at All Things Beautiful that touches on some of the same themes.

…speaking of pathetic, don’t miss this interview with another ‘Hezbollah’s spokesperson’, Ralph Nader. He calls a Lebanon, governed by politicians unwilling or unable to confront Hezbollah and to implement Security Council resolutions an ‘independent’ Lebanon, and Israel’s wish for peace and protection from Hezbollah’s murdering thugs an attempt to ‘install’ a ‘puppet regime’. How much more, dellusional can you get.

Alexandra, surely you mean the question rhetorically! If Mr. Nader gets wind of it, he might take it as a challenge to see just how much more fantastical his “reality-based” fantasies can be made to be. *heh*

Of course there are more voices out there, but there’s your “Seven More” to mine for cases to submit to a “Seven Cardinal Virtues/Seven Deadly Sins” paradigm for examination.

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